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From: dbarrass_2000 <david.barrass@e...>
Date: Mon May 3, 2004 9:57am
Subject:
Re: End of Group
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Please send it to me too
David
--- In
DragonQuestCathedral@yahoogroups.com, John Rauchert
<john.rauchert@s...> wrote:
> Give me a couple of days to format the file, then I
will package
them up and
> send out. I have a couple of websites to roll out in
the next two
days for
> work so I am currently burning all my spare time.
>
> JohnR
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: J. K. Hoffman [mailto:ryumaou@s...]
> Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 6:18 AM
> To:
DragonQuestCathedral@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [DragonQuestCathedral] End of Group
>
> John Rauchert wrote:
> > I have already captured all the messages from the
group and the
group
> > files.
> >
> > I was going to offer my website as a location for
the archives,
but it
> > is usually a good thing to have a couple of
locations as things
tend to
> > disappear off the net.
> >
> > JohnR
> >
> Well, I'm happy to be a mirror site, too.
> All you need to do is send me what you have to put up.
And be patient.
> It might take a couple of days to get up and running.
>
> Thanks,
> Jim
> --
> When I get a little money I buy books; and if any is
left, I buy food
> and clothes.
> - Desiderius Erasmus
>
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From: Richard <demon_star2002@y...>
Date: Mon May 3, 2004 1:02pm
Subject:
Re: End of Group
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Okay, guys, just post when you have everything ready
to go and I'll
close the doors of this institution. I have to agree
with David- the
purpose of this group has been fulfilled. I just wish
(along with
David, I'm sure) that there would have been more
feedback on the work
done here.
And so it goes...
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From: rthorm <dqn@e...>
Date: Tue May 4, 2004 9:44pm
Subject:
Re: End of Group
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I'm sorry to see this group folding, though I am
very glad that we are
getting a chance to save and archive the various
materials that have
been created. There's too much information that is
committed to the
internet without any backup, and things have a way of
suddenly
disappearing.
I've been part of the online DragonQuest community for
as long as
anyone, and I've seen the ups and downs that these
things go through.
I can understand the discouragement coming from small
amounts of
feedback and discussions that seem to taper off to
nothing. It is
very (VERY) hard to keep going in such circumstances. It
doesn't mean
that all is forgotten, or that no one is using your
work.
I have not been an active participant in this group
largely because I
deal with deities in my campaign in my own way. However,
I think that
David's project ('Things Spiritual') is true to the
spirit (if you
will pardon the pun) of what the designers at SPI would
have done had
they written the rules for deities for DQ.
I certainly hope that this does not signal the end for
this project.
I think that it has its place and usefulness. The
collected
discussion and rules here are excellent material for
those looking for
a way to include deities and spiritual elements to their
campaigns.
I am going to copy the two files from this group into
the dqn-list
files, and I would be happy to add the archived
discussion there as
well if someone will provide me with a copy.
--Rodger Thorm
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155 |
From: dbarrass_2000 <david.barrass@e...>
Date: Wed May 5, 2004 4:48am
Subject:
Re: End of Group
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I'm sorry to see it go too, but its been quiet too
long. Thanks for
your kind comments.
I'm not giving up, I've a new draft that's being
playtested now. Not
too many changes (a good thing), but a few additions.
In addition to a few minor changes, I've added Norse and
Celtic
pantheons as these are the ones I wanted for my campain.
More
speculatively I've also added a brief section on
planes/dimensions
It the risk of postponing the ending of the group I'm
wondering if the
players are getting value from their eps for the skills.
I've been
comparing what you get for the DQ skills and what you
get for my new
skills and think that the cost are too high. Any
comments on this (if
no comments arrise I'll ask a related question in
dq-rules)?
David
--- In
DragonQuestCathedral@yahoogroups.com, "rthorm"
<dqn@e...> wrote:
> I'm sorry to see this group folding, though I am very
glad that we are
> getting a chance to save and archive the various
materials that have
> been created. There's too much information that is
committed to the
> internet without any backup, and things have a way of
suddenly
> disappearing.
>
> I've been part of the online DragonQuest community for
as long as
> anyone, and I've seen the ups and downs that these
things go through.
> I can understand the discouragement coming from small
amounts of
> feedback and discussions that seem to taper off to
nothing. It is
> very (VERY) hard to keep going in such circumstances.
It doesn't mean
> that all is forgotten, or that no one is using your
work.
>
> I have not been an active participant in this group
largely because I
> deal with deities in my campaign in my own way.
However, I think that
> David's project ('Things Spiritual') is true to the
spirit (if you
> will pardon the pun) of what the designers at SPI
would have done had
> they written the rules for deities for DQ.
>
> I certainly hope that this does not signal the end for
this project.
> I think that it has its place and usefulness. The
collected
> discussion and rules here are excellent material for
those looking for
> a way to include deities and spiritual elements to
their campaigns.
>
> I am going to copy the two files from this group into
the dqn-list
> files, and I would be happy to add the archived
discussion there as
> well if someone will provide me with a copy.
>
> --Rodger Thorm
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156 |
From: Donald Hawthorne <ravenglass@e...>
Date: Wed May 5, 2004 11:38pm
Subject:
Re: Digest Number 51
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Wow:
I just got back from an out of town trip and now I see
the DQ list is
folding?
Why? Long periods of quiet don' mean a game is dead. I'm
running a very
active DQ campaign even now, and I plannned to post the
entire campaign
write up upon conclusion, along with all the maps and
adventures.
Hey, I belong to the VOR list, the Dtar Wars Miniatures
Battles list, even a
T2: Year of Darkness list.
Don't give up on DQ and its adherents yet.
Like the church-guys and UFO-seekers say, "Absence of
evidence is not
evidence of absence."
Don Hawthorne
----- Original Message -----
From: <DragonQuestCathedral@yahoogroups.com>
To: <DragonQuestCathedral@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 3:15 PM
Subject: [DragonQuestCathedral] Digest Number 51
>
> There are 2 messages in this issue.
>
> Topics in this digest:
>
> 1. Re: End of Group
> From: "rthorm" <dqn@e...>
> 2. Re: End of Group
> From: "dbarrass_2000" <david.barrass@e...>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________
>
________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 03:44:57 -0000
> From: "rthorm" <dqn@e...>
> Subject: Re: End of Group
>
> I'm sorry to see this group folding, though I am very
glad that we are
> getting a chance to save and archive the various
materials that have
> been created. There's too much information that is
committed to the
> internet without any backup, and things have a way of
suddenly
> disappearing.
>
> I've been part of the online DragonQuest community for
as long as
> anyone, and I've seen the ups and downs that these
things go through.
> I can understand the discouragement coming from small
amounts of
> feedback and discussions that seem to taper off to
nothing. It is
> very (VERY) hard to keep going in such circumstances.
It doesn't mean
> that all is forgotten, or that no one is using your
work.
>
> I have not been an active participant in this group
largely because I
> deal with deities in my campaign in my own way.
However, I think that
> David's project ('Things Spiritual') is true to the
spirit (if you
> will pardon the pun) of what the designers at SPI
would have done had
> they written the rules for deities for DQ.
>
> I certainly hope that this does not signal the end for
this project.
> I think that it has its place and usefulness. The
collected
> discussion and rules here are excellent material for
those looking for
> a way to include deities and spiritual elements to
their campaigns.
>
> I am going to copy the two files from this group into
the dqn-list
> files, and I would be happy to add the archived
discussion there as
> well if someone will provide me with a copy.
>
> --Rodger Thorm
>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________
>
________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 10:48:23 -0000
> From: "dbarrass_2000" <david.barrass@e...>
> Subject: Re: End of Group
>
> I'm sorry to see it go too, but its been quiet too
long. Thanks for
> your kind comments.
>
> I'm not giving up, I've a new draft that's being
playtested now. Not
> too many changes (a good thing), but a few additions.
>
> In addition to a few minor changes, I've added Norse
and Celtic
> pantheons as these are the ones I wanted for my
campain. More
> speculatively I've also added a brief section on
planes/dimensions
>
> It the risk of postponing the ending of the group I'm
wondering if the
> players are getting value from their eps for the
skills. I've been
> comparing what you get for the DQ skills and what you
get for my new
> skills and think that the cost are too high. Any
comments on this (if
> no comments arrise I'll ask a related question in
dq-rules)?
>
> David
>
> --- In
DragonQuestCathedral@yahoogroups.com, "rthorm"
<dqn@e...> wrote:
> > I'm sorry to see this group folding, though I am
very glad that we are
> > getting a chance to save and archive the various
materials that have
> > been created. There's too much information that is
committed to the
> > internet without any backup, and things have a way
of suddenly
> > disappearing.
> >
> > I've been part of the online DragonQuest community
for as long as
> > anyone, and I've seen the ups and downs that these
things go through.
> > I can understand the discouragement coming from
small amounts of
> > feedback and discussions that seem to taper off to
nothing. It is
> > very (VERY) hard to keep going in such
circumstances. It doesn't mean
> > that all is forgotten, or that no one is using your
work.
> >
> > I have not been an active participant in this group
largely because I
> > deal with deities in my campaign in my own way.
However, I think that
> > David's project ('Things Spiritual') is true to the
spirit (if you
> > will pardon the pun) of what the designers at SPI
would have done had
> > they written the rules for deities for DQ.
> >
> > I certainly hope that this does not signal the end
for this project.
> > I think that it has its place and usefulness. The
collected
> > discussion and rules here are excellent material for
those looking for
> > a way to include deities and spiritual elements to
their campaigns.
> >
> > I am going to copy the two files from this group
into the dqn-list
> > files, and I would be happy to add the archived
discussion there as
> > well if someone will provide me with a copy.
> >
> > --Rodger Thorm
>
>
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157 |
From: J. K. Hoffman <ryumaou@s...>
Date: Thu May 6, 2004 6:16am
Subject:
Re: Digest Number 51
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Donald Hawthorne wrote:
> Wow:
> I just got back from an out of town trip and now I see
the DQ list is
> folding?
> Why? Long periods of quiet don' mean a game is dead.
I'm running a very
> active DQ campaign even now, and I plannned to post
the entire campaign
> write up upon conclusion, along with all the maps and
adventures.
> Hey, I belong to the VOR list, the Dtar Wars
Miniatures Battles list, even a
> T2: Year of Darkness list.
> Don't give up on DQ and its adherents yet.
> Like the church-guys and UFO-seekers say, "Absence of
evidence is not
> evidence of absence."
> Don Hawthorne
>
I think you got the wrong idea. No one's giving up on
DragonQuest, just
this one list. There are others. In fact, there are at
least two
others on YahooGroups. The owner just felt that there
wasn't enough
traffic to keep this one list open anymore.
That being said, I'd be happy to add your material to
the other archive,
when I get it, and publish it on my website.
Thanks,
Jim
--
When I get a little money I buy books; and if any is
left, I buy food
and clothes.
- Desiderius Erasmus
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158 |
From: <hollywood314@j...>
Date: Thu May 6, 2004 6:53am
Subject:
Re: Digest Number 51
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Yes, just the DragonQuestCathedral group dealing
with religion in DQ is closing. The DQ List and DQ Rules
groups are still open and active.
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159 |
From: John Rauchert <john.rauchert@s...>
Date: Thu May 6, 2004 7:58am
Subject:
RE: Digest Number 51
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Don:
The DQN-list and DQ-Rules
Lists are NOT folding.
Only the DragonQuestCathedral
list is folding as the founders have generally
agreed that the purpose of the group has been
served (discussion of Religion Rules for DQ).
The emphasis of this group will now likely shift
back to DQN-list and DQ-rules groups and the
larger DragonQuest community for input.
We would welcome any material
that you are willing to share with the DQ
Community.
John F. Rauchert, Co-moderator
DQ-rules, DQN-list, Universe_RPG
President DragonQuest Players
Association, www.dragonquest.org
-----Original Message-----
From: Donald Hawthorne [ravenglass@ear...]
Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004
11:38 PM
To:
DragonQuestCathedral@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re:
[DragonQuestCathedral] Digest Number 51
Wow:
I just got back from an out of
town trip and now I see the DQ list is
folding?
Why? Long periods of quiet don'
mean a game is dead. I'm running a very
active DQ campaign even now, and
I plannned to post the entire campaign
write up upon conclusion, along
with all the maps and adventures.
Hey, I belong to the VOR list,
the Dtar Wars Miniatures Battles list, even a
T2: Year of Darkness list.
Don't give up on DQ and its
adherents yet.
Like the church-guys and
UFO-seekers say, "Absence of evidence is not
evidence of absence."
Don Hawthorne
----- Original Message -----
From:
To:
Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004
3:15 PM
Subject: [DragonQuestCathedral]
Digest Number 51
>
> There are 2 messages in this
issue.
>
> Topics in this digest:
>
> 1. Re: End of Group
> From: "rthorm"
> 2. Re: End of Group
> From:
"dbarrass_2000"
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________
>
________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 05 May 2004
03:44:57 -0000
> From: "rthorm"
> Subject: Re: End of Group
>
> I'm sorry to see this group
folding, though I am very glad that we are
> getting a chance to save and
archive the various materials that have
> been created. There's too much
information that is committed to the
> internet without any backup,
and things have a way of suddenly
> disappearing.
>
> I've been part of the online
DragonQuest community for as long as
> anyone, and I've seen the ups
and downs that these things go through.
> I can understand the
discouragement coming from small amounts of
> feedback and discussions that
seem to taper off to nothing. It is
> very (VERY) hard to keep going
in such circumstances. It doesn't mean
> that all is forgotten, or that
no one is using your work.
>
> I have not been an active
participant in this group largely because I
> deal with deities in my
campaign in my own way. However, I think that
> David's project ('Things
Spiritual') is true to the spirit (if you
> will pardon the pun) of what
the designers at SPI would have done had
> they written the rules for
deities for DQ.
>
> I certainly hope that this does
not signal the end for this project.
> I think that it has its place
and usefulness. The collected
> discussion and rules here are
excellent material for those looking for
> a way to include deities and
spiritual elements to their campaigns.
>
> I am going to copy the two
files from this group into the dqn-list
> files, and I would be happy to
add the archived discussion there as
> well if someone will provide me
with a copy.
>
> --Rodger Thorm
>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________
>
________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 05 May 2004
10:48:23 -0000
> From: "dbarrass_2000"
> Subject: Re: End of Group
>
> I'm sorry to see it go too, but
its been quiet too long. Thanks for
> your kind comments.
>
> I'm not giving up, I've a new
draft that's being playtested now. Not
> too many changes (a good
thing), but a few additions.
>
> In addition to a few minor
changes, I've added Norse and Celtic
> pantheons as these are the ones
I wanted for my campain. More
> speculatively I've also added a
brief section on planes/dimensions
>
> It the risk of postponing the
ending of the group I'm wondering if the
> players are getting value from
their eps for the skills. I've been
> comparing what you get for the
DQ skills and what you get for my new
> skills and think that the cost
are too high. Any comments on this (if
> no comments arrise I'll ask a
related question in dq-rules)?
>
> David
>
> --- In
DragonQuestCathedral@yahoogroups.com, "rthorm"
wrote:
> > I'm sorry to see this group
folding, though I am very glad that we are
> > getting a chance to save and
archive the various materials that have
> > been created. There's too
much information that is committed to the
> > internet without any backup,
and things have a way of suddenly
> > disappearing.
> >
> > I've been part of the online
DragonQuest community for as long as
> > anyone, and I've seen the ups
and downs that these things go through.
> > I can understand the
discouragement coming from small amounts of
> > feedback and discussions that
seem to taper off to nothing. It is
> > very (VERY) hard to keep
going in such circumstances. It doesn't mean
> > that all is forgotten, or
that no one is using your work.
> >
> > I have not been an active
participant in this group largely because I
> > deal with deities in my
campaign in my own way. However, I think that
> > David's project ('Things
Spiritual') is true to the spirit (if you
> > will pardon the pun) of what
the designers at SPI would have done had
> > they written the rules for
deities for DQ.
> >
> > I certainly hope that this
does not signal the end for this project.
> > I think that it has its place
and usefulness. The collected
> > discussion and rules here are
excellent material for those looking for
> > a way to include deities and
spiritual elements to their campaigns.
> >
> > I am going to copy the two
files from this group into the dqn-list
> > files, and I would be happy
to add the archived discussion there as
> > well if someone will provide
me with a copy.
> >
> > --Rodger Thorm
>
>
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160 |
From: Donald Hawthorne <ravenglass@e...>
Date: Thu May 6, 2004 2:32pm
Subject:
Re: Digest Number 52
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Oh!
Whew! Scared me for a second there!
Don
----- Original Message -----
From: <DragonQuestCathedral@yahoogroups.com>
To: <DragonQuestCathedral@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 2:29 PM
Subject: [DragonQuestCathedral] Digest Number 52
>
> There are 4 messages in this issue.
>
> Topics in this digest:
>
> 1. Re: Digest Number 51
> From: "Donald Hawthorne" <ravenglass@e...>
> 2. Re: Digest Number 51
> From: "J. K. Hoffman" <ryumaou@s...>
> 3. Re: Digest Number 51
> From:
hollywood314@j...
> 4. RE: Digest Number 51
> From: John Rauchert <john.rauchert@s...>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________
>
________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 01:38:05 -0400
> From: "Donald Hawthorne" <ravenglass@e...>
> Subject: Re: Digest Number 51
>
> Wow:
> I just got back from an out of town trip and now I see
the DQ list is
> folding?
> Why? Long periods of quiet don' mean a game is dead.
I'm running a very
> active DQ campaign even now, and I plannned to post
the entire campaign
> write up upon conclusion, along with all the maps and
adventures.
> Hey, I belong to the VOR list, the Dtar Wars
Miniatures Battles list, even
a
> T2: Year of Darkness list.
> Don't give up on DQ and its adherents yet.
> Like the church-guys and UFO-seekers say, "Absence of
evidence is not
> evidence of absence."
> Don Hawthorne
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <DragonQuestCathedral@yahoogroups.com>
> To: <DragonQuestCathedral@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 3:15 PM
> Subject: [DragonQuestCathedral] Digest Number 51
>
>
> >
> > There are 2 messages in this issue.
> >
> > Topics in this digest:
> >
> > 1. Re: End of Group
> > From: "rthorm" <dqn@e...>
> > 2. Re: End of Group
> > From: "dbarrass_2000" <david.barrass@e...>
> >
> >
> >
________________________________________________________________________
> >
________________________________________________________________________
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 03:44:57 -0000
> > From: "rthorm" <dqn@e...>
> > Subject: Re: End of Group
> >
> > I'm sorry to see this group folding, though I am
very glad that we are
> > getting a chance to save and archive the various
materials that have
> > been created. There's too much information that is
committed to the
> > internet without any backup, and things have a way
of suddenly
> > disappearing.
> >
> > I've been part of the online DragonQuest community
for as long as
> > anyone, and I've seen the ups and downs that these
things go through.
> > I can understand the discouragement coming from
small amounts of
> > feedback and discussions that seem to taper off to
nothing. It is
> > very (VERY) hard to keep going in such
circumstances. It doesn't mean
> > that all is forgotten, or that no one is using your
work.
> >
> > I have not been an active participant in this group
largely because I
> > deal with deities in my campaign in my own way.
However, I think that
> > David's project ('Things Spiritual') is true to the
spirit (if you
> > will pardon the pun) of what the designers at SPI
would have done had
> > they written the rules for deities for DQ.
> >
> > I certainly hope that this does not signal the end
for this project.
> > I think that it has its place and usefulness. The
collected
> > discussion and rules here are excellent material for
those looking for
> > a way to include deities and spiritual elements to
their campaigns.
> >
> > I am going to copy the two files from this group
into the dqn-list
> > files, and I would be happy to add the archived
discussion there as
> > well if someone will provide me with a copy.
> >
> > --Rodger Thorm
> >
> >
> >
> >
________________________________________________________________________
> >
________________________________________________________________________
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 10:48:23 -0000
> > From: "dbarrass_2000" <david.barrass@e...>
> > Subject: Re: End of Group
> >
> > I'm sorry to see it go too, but its been quiet too
long. Thanks for
> > your kind comments.
> >
> > I'm not giving up, I've a new draft that's being
playtested now. Not
> > too many changes (a good thing), but a few
additions.
> >
> > In addition to a few minor changes, I've added Norse
and Celtic
> > pantheons as these are the ones I wanted for my
campain. More
> > speculatively I've also added a brief section on
planes/dimensions
> >
> > It the risk of postponing the ending of the group
I'm wondering if the
> > players are getting value from their eps for the
skills. I've been
> > comparing what you get for the DQ skills and what
you get for my new
> > skills and think that the cost are too high. Any
comments on this (if
> > no comments arrise I'll ask a related question in
dq-rules)?
> >
> > David
> >
> > --- In
DragonQuestCathedral@yahoogroups.com, "rthorm"
<dqn@e...> wrote:
> > > I'm sorry to see this group folding, though I am
very glad that we are
> > > getting a chance to save and archive the various
materials that have
> > > been created. There's too much information that is
committed to the
> > > internet without any backup, and things have a way
of suddenly
> > > disappearing.
> > >
> > > I've been part of the online DragonQuest community
for as long as
> > > anyone, and I've seen the ups and downs that these
things go through.
> > > I can understand the discouragement coming from
small amounts of
> > > feedback and discussions that seem to taper off to
nothing. It is
> > > very (VERY) hard to keep going in such
circumstances. It doesn't mean
> > > that all is forgotten, or that no one is using
your work.
> > >
> > > I have not been an active participant in this
group largely because I
> > > deal with deities in my campaign in my own way.
However, I think that
> > > David's project ('Things Spiritual') is true to
the spirit (if you
> > > will pardon the pun) of what the designers at SPI
would have done had
> > > they written the rules for deities for DQ.
> > >
> > > I certainly hope that this does not signal the end
for this project.
> > > I think that it has its place and usefulness. The
collected
> > > discussion and rules here are excellent material
for those looking for
> > > a way to include deities and spiritual elements to
their campaigns.
> > >
> > > I am going to copy the two files from this group
into the dqn-list
> > > files, and I would be happy to add the archived
discussion there as
> > > well if someone will provide me with a copy.
> > >
> > > --Rodger Thorm
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
________________________________________________________________________
>
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>
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 06 May 2004 07:16:20 -0500
> From: "J. K. Hoffman" <ryumaou@s...>
> Subject: Re: Digest Number 51
>
> Donald Hawthorne wrote:
> > Wow:
> > I just got back from an out of town trip and now I
see the DQ list is
> > folding?
> > Why? Long periods of quiet don' mean a game is dead.
I'm running a very
> > active DQ campaign even now, and I plannned to post
the entire campaign
> > write up upon conclusion, along with all the maps
and adventures.
> > Hey, I belong to the VOR list, the Dtar Wars
Miniatures Battles list,
even a
> > T2: Year of Darkness list.
> > Don't give up on DQ and its adherents yet.
> > Like the church-guys and UFO-seekers say, "Absence
of evidence is not
> > evidence of absence."
> > Don Hawthorne
> >
>
> I think you got the wrong idea. No one's giving up on
DragonQuest, just
> this one list. There are others. In fact, there are at
least two
> others on YahooGroups. The owner just felt that there
wasn't enough
> traffic to keep this one list open anymore.
> That being said, I'd be happy to add your material to
the other archive,
> when I get it, and publish it on my website.
>
> Thanks,
> Jim
> --
> When I get a little money I buy books; and if any is
left, I buy food
> and clothes.
> - Desiderius Erasmus
>
>
>
>
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>
________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 12:53:49 GMT
> From:
hollywood314@j...
> Subject: Re: Digest Number 51
>
>
> Yes, just the DragonQuestCathedral group dealing with
religion in DQ is
closing. The DQ List and DQ Rules groups are still open
and active.
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________
>
________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 06 May 2004 07:58:52 -0600
> From: John Rauchert <john.rauchert@s...>
> Subject: RE: Digest Number 51
>
> Don:
>
> The DQN-list and DQ-Rules Lists are NOT folding.
>
> Only the DragonQuestCathedral list is folding as the
founders have
generally
> agreed that the purpose of the group has been served
(discussion of
Religion
> Rules for DQ). The emphasis of this group will now
likely shift back to
> DQN-list and DQ-rules groups and the larger
DragonQuest community for
input.
>
> We would welcome any material that you are willing to
share with the DQ
> Community.
>
> John F. Rauchert, Co-moderator DQ-rules, DQN-list,
Universe_RPG
> President DragonQuest Players Association,
www.dragonquest.org
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Donald Hawthorne [mailto:ravenglass@e...]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 11:38 PM
> To:
DragonQuestCathedral@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [DragonQuestCathedral] Digest Number 51
>
> Wow:
> I just got back from an out of town trip and now I see
the DQ list is
> folding?
> Why? Long periods of quiet don' mean a game is dead.
I'm running a very
> active DQ campaign even now, and I plannned to post
the entire campaign
> write up upon conclusion, along with all the maps and
adventures.
> Hey, I belong to the VOR list, the Dtar Wars
Miniatures Battles list, even
a
> T2: Year of Darkness list.
> Don't give up on DQ and its adherents yet.
> Like the church-guys and UFO-seekers say, "Absence of
evidence is not
> evidence of absence."
> Don Hawthorne
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <DragonQuestCathedral@yahoogroups.com>
> To: <DragonQuestCathedral@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 3:15 PM
> Subject: [DragonQuestCathedral] Digest Number 51
>
>
> >
> > There are 2 messages in this issue.
> >
> > Topics in this digest:
> >
> > 1. Re: End of Group
> > From: "rthorm" <dqn@e...>
> > 2. Re: End of Group
> > From: "dbarrass_2000" <david.barrass@e...>
> >
> >
> >
________________________________________________________________________
> >
________________________________________________________________________
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 03:44:57 -0000
> > From: "rthorm" <dqn@e...>
> > Subject: Re: End of Group
> >
> > I'm sorry to see this group folding, though I am
very glad that we are
> > getting a chance to save and archive the various
materials that have
> > been created. There's too much information that is
committed to the
> > internet without any backup, and things have a way
of suddenly
> > disappearing.
> >
> > I've been part of the online DragonQuest community
for as long as
> > anyone, and I've seen the ups and downs that these
things go through.
> > I can understand the discouragement coming from
small amounts of
> > feedback and discussions that seem to taper off to
nothing. It is
> > very (VERY) hard to keep going in such
circumstances. It doesn't mean
> > that all is forgotten, or that no one is using your
work.
> >
> > I have not been an active participant in this group
largely because I
> > deal with deities in my campaign in my own way.
However, I think that
> > David's project ('Things Spiritual') is true to the
spirit (if you
> > will pardon the pun) of what the designers at SPI
would have done had
> > they written the rules for deities for DQ.
> >
> > I certainly hope that this does not signal the end
for this project.
> > I think that it has its place and usefulness. The
collected
> > discussion and rules here are excellent material for
those looking for
> > a way to include deities and spiritual elements to
their campaigns.
> >
> > I am going to copy the two files from this group
into the dqn-list
> > files, and I would be happy to add the archived
discussion there as
> > well if someone will provide me with a copy.
> >
> > --Rodger Thorm
> >
> >
> >
> >
________________________________________________________________________
> >
________________________________________________________________________
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 10:48:23 -0000
> > From: "dbarrass_2000" <david.barrass@e...>
> > Subject: Re: End of Group
> >
> > I'm sorry to see it go too, but its been quiet too
long. Thanks for
> > your kind comments.
> >
> > I'm not giving up, I've a new draft that's being
playtested now. Not
> > too many changes (a good thing), but a few
additions.
> >
> > In addition to a few minor changes, I've added Norse
and Celtic
> > pantheons as these are the ones I wanted for my
campain. More
> > speculatively I've also added a brief section on
planes/dimensions
> >
> > It the risk of postponing the ending of the group
I'm wondering if the
> > players are getting value from their eps for the
skills. I've been
> > comparing what you get for the DQ skills and what
you get for my new
> > skills and think that the cost are too high. Any
comments on this (if
> > no comments arrise I'll ask a related question in
dq-rules)?
> >
> > David
> >
> > --- In
DragonQuestCathedral@yahoogroups.com, "rthorm"
<dqn@e...> wrote:
> > > I'm sorry to see this group folding, though I am
very glad that we are
> > > getting a chance to save and archive the various
materials that have
> > > been created. There's too much information that is
committed to the
> > > internet without any backup, and things have a way
of suddenly
> > > disappearing.
> > >
> > > I've been part of the online DragonQuest community
for as long as
> > > anyone, and I've seen the ups and downs that these
things go through.
> > > I can understand the discouragement coming from
small amounts of
> > > feedback and discussions that seem to taper off to
nothing. It is
> > > very (VERY) hard to keep going in such
circumstances. It doesn't mean
> > > that all is forgotten, or that no one is using
your work.
> > >
> > > I have not been an active participant in this
group largely because I
> > > deal with deities in my campaign in my own way.
However, I think that
> > > David's project ('Things Spiritual') is true to
the spirit (if you
> > > will pardon the pun) of what the designers at SPI
would have done had
> > > they written the rules for deities for DQ.
> > >
> > > I certainly hope that this does not signal the end
for this project.
> > > I think that it has its place and usefulness. The
collected
> > > discussion and rules here are excellent material
for those looking for
> > > a way to include deities and spiritual elements to
their campaigns.
> > >
> > > I am going to copy the two files from this group
into the dqn-list
> > > files, and I would be happy to add the archived
discussion there as
> > > well if someone will provide me with a copy.
> > >
> > > --Rodger Thorm
> >
> >
> >
> >
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From: dbarrass_2000 <david.barrass@e...>
Date: Mon May 10, 2004 1:47am
Subject:
Re: End of Group
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Is there an easy way to archive this site? All I can
see are the
posts, and getting it in to a form that can be put on a
web page and
still be useful is going to take ages!
David
--- In
DragonQuestCathedral@yahoogroups.com, "Richard"
<demon_star2002@y...> wrote:
> Okay, guys, just post when you have everything ready
to go and I'll
> close the doors of this institution. I have to agree
with David- the
> purpose of this group has been fulfilled. I just wish
(along with
> David, I'm sure) that there would have been more
feedback on the work
> done here.
>
> And so it goes...
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From: John Rauchert <john.rauchert@s...>
Date: Mon May 10, 2004 8:12am
Subject:
RE: Re: End of Group
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Already in the works.
I have all the messages to
date captured and I am doing a final clean up.
I was out of town for a few days so I did not
get a chance to work on them but I will try to
pump the files out early this week and
distribute them for you guys to look at.
JohnR
-----Original Message-----
From: dbarrass_2000 [mailto:david.barrass@e...]
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 1:47
AM
To:
DragonQuestCathedral@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DragonQuestCathedral]
Re: End of Group
Is there an easy way to
archive this site? All I can see are the
posts, and getting it in to a
form that can be put on a web page and
still be useful is going to take
ages!
David
--- In
DragonQuestCathedral@yahoogroups.com, "Richard"
wrote:
> Okay, guys, just post when you
have everything ready to go and I'll
> close the doors of this
institution. I have to agree with David- the
> purpose of this group has been
fulfilled. I just wish (along with
> David, I'm sure) that there
would have been more feedback on the work
> done here.
>
> And so it goes...
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From: Richard <demon_star2002@y...>
Date: Mon May 10, 2004 1:42pm
Subject:
Re: End of Group
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Okay, John, just let me know when you have
everything ready to go and
I'll draw the curtain.
--- In
DragonQuestCathedral@yahoogroups.com, John Rauchert
<john.rauchert@s...> wrote:
> Already in the works.
>
> I have all the messages to date captured and I am
doing a final
clean up. I
> was out of town for a few days so I did not get a
chance to work on
them but
> I will try to pump the files out early this week and
distribute
them for you
> guys to look at.
>
> JohnR
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From: rthorm <dqn@e...>
Date: Wed May 12, 2004 6:29am
Subject:
Re: End of Group
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Can I make one last suggestion?
When everything has been migrated, turn off the message
board (don't
allow anyone but the moderator to post, and just don't
post anything)
and all the other features so that there's nothing to be
done with it,
but leave a pointer to the archives, and recommend that
further
discussion of the concept takes place over at the
DQN-list. That way,
if someone comes looking and doesn't find anything, they
at least have
some references for where they should go.
--Rodger
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From: Richard <demon_star2002@y...>
Date: Wed May 12, 2004 5:53pm
Subject:
Re: End of Group
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Fair enough. :)
--- In
DragonQuestCathedral@yahoogroups.com, "rthorm" <dqn@e...>
wrote:
> Can I make one last suggestion?
>
> When everything has been migrated, turn off the
message board (don't
> allow anyone but the moderator to post, and just don't
post
anything)
> and all the other features so that there's nothing to
be done with
it,
> but leave a pointer to the archives, and recommend
that further
> discussion of the concept takes place over at the DQN-list.
That
way,
> if someone comes looking and doesn't find anything,
they at least
have
> some references for where they should go.
>
> --Rodger
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