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Re: [dq-rules] Hidden Bias (was Gender Neutral Writing)



Having read the discussion so far, I've something to add. First off, to me it seems all this talk about which pronoun to use is much ado about nothing, as the male pronoun is typically used as a generic one.

Second, you guys have no idea just how lucky you are to have a language with separate pronouns for the sexes in the first place. In Finnish there is only a single neutral pronoun, "hän", which refers to both men and women, and it completely fucks up many sorts of sentences that an English-speaker would write without a second thought.

Consider the following (rather poor and hurriedly thought up) example: "James met Jack and Helen at the mall. He had long fancied her, but knew that she was with him, so he'd always kept his feelings to himself."

Now, try and write that with a single gender-neutral pronoun: "James met Jack and Helen at the mall. Hän had long fancied häntä (objective form), but knew that hän was with hän, so hän had always kept hänen (his/her) feelings to hänself."

Not very good, is it? This is the kind of stuff that anybody who has ever written in Finnish has to deal with every single time. The example makes perfect sense in English because the pronouns clarify who is being referred to, precisely because they are gender specific. In Finnish, or when substituting a neutral pronoun as I just did, the thread of the example disappears pretty much at the beginning of the second sentence. Who did James fancy? Without any information on his sexual preferences, with a neutral pronoun it could be either Jack or Helen (presumably Helen, given statistical probabilities). If a truly gender neutral pronoun were to be coined and accepted into use (and if it were to eventually supplant the gender specific ones), it would lead to a massive change in the way English is written at level more fundamental than most of you can grasp, I think.


My own personal opinion is that the attempts to push the use of the female pronoun for this purpose or (*puke*) alternating the male and female pronouns is just a misguided trend arising out of oversensitized, hysteric political correctness which seems to pervade much of American culture these days. It sometimes seems as if people are actively looking for something, anything, to be offended at, and many go to ridiculous lengths to find something trivial to nitpick. Even worse are those who accommodate such nitpickers. Do remember that this statement is generic, though, and does not apply to anyone here based on what I've seen in the past, but I've seen this thrend elsewhere in less distinguished comapny.

That said, I don't take offense at somebody using the female pronoun as generic, it's just as good for the purpose as the male one, which is the default only by tradition, and keeping a tradition just for the sake of keeping a tradition isn't enough justification to say that it is somehow wrong. I'll personally use the male pronoun for generic expressions because that's the way I learned it and because it still is the accepted form, while using 'she' is considered an oddity. I don't see it in being in any way sexist, but given that I grew up with a language where this whole problem does not exist in the first place, I have something of a different perspective on it. Using 'he' for generic expressions is just like using the Finnish passive form for me.

I'm something of a linguistical purist in some respects, but I realize that languages change with the passage of time and some things that were previously "forbidden" may become accepted, and I don't have a problem with that. It's the stuff like people substituting "possibul" for "possible" and similar illiterate stupidity that send me through the roof, not the minor things like whether to use he or she for generic pronoun. That's not something that can be called butchering the English language, not by a long shot.

As for the hidden biases mentioned, I agree that some of that exists. Don't know much about it with regard to left-handed people, as I the only lefty I know is my sister and I haven't talked about it with her. Regarding women, some professions are seen as women's stuff largely because those were basically seen as the only jobs that could be considered proper for women to do (so far as any jobs were), and those troglodytic attitudes have taken a long time to disappear. There's still a long way to go before they are completely eradicated, but it's happening. Not fast enough for some people while others are content with this pace, but getting all PC about certain less significant things in order to compensate for the more important stuff isn't the answer.

And now that I've more or less offended everyone here so far, feel free to crisp me to a cinder. *dons flame-retardant body armor* ;-)

EDi